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Our reader’s letter today is from Gerald, who writes: “I have an Ion Discover DJ controller. I like it a lot. I used the tips I found about a DJ splitter cable (stereo – going out to two mono) but I am struggling with the software. I do not understand the routing nor how to set up the supplied MixVibes Cross LE software to allow me to use my splitter cables. I have a gig coming up and am trying to get all my gear set up. Can you help?”
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A number of DJ controllers were designed to seamlessly work with djay Pro. In addition to supporting over 60 MIDI controllers out of the box by manufacturers such as Pioneer DJ, Numark, Denon, Reloop, and others, djay Pro also includes an advanced MIDI Learn system so you can map your controller individually. A number of DJ controllers were designed to seamlessly work with djay Pro. In addition to supporting over 60 MIDI controllers out of the box by manufacturers such as Pioneer DJ, Numark, Denon, Reloop, and others, djay Pro also includes an advanced MIDI Learn system so. Anyone use Djay Pro? The Spotify integration is kind of insane. Tempted to unlock the demo but want some long term thoughts. Only downside to make note of is if you are using spotify songs in a mix for recording they will not work. It only allows you to record off your I tunes library. Djay Pro is pretty good, but it does have.
For those of you just starting out with very cheap DJ gear, or an iPad, iPhone or even Android DJ program, you may be having great fun with your DJ program or basic controller, but wondering how the hell you get your headphones and your speakers plugged in and working independently. This ability to “cue” (to listen “secretly” to the other music source, the one that’s not playing) is fundamental to DJing, and cheap laptop controllers and all iOS/Android software doesn’t have it built-in.
If you’ve dug a bit deeper, you may have found out – like Gerald – that a DJ splitter cable can be your saviour. This semi-legendary “hack” works by splitting the stereo signal into two independent mono signals, one for each of your required outputs. Sure, you’re now playing in mono – as you plug your speakers into one of these outputs, and your headphones into the other – but it’s a little-known fact that most “real” club sound systems are in mono anyway, and it’s a very small price to pay to be able to DJ with the gear in front of you in exactly the same way all DJs do.
Trouble is, getting any old splitter cable and plugging it in and hooking up your speakers and headphones isn’t enough. Firstly, you need a DJ splitter cable (the one we recommend is here). This genuinely puts the left channel to one pseudo-stereo output and the right to the other. Having the kind of splitter cable sold to share a single headphones output on an iPod, for instance, won’t work because it sends the same thing down each of its outputs.
Secondly, you need to tell your software that’s what you’re doing. You have to find the audio output, audio routing or audio configuration settings and look for “mono split”, “split mono” or “DJ splitter” setting – the one that shows all audio going through the single PC/iOS headphones output and also shows both the speakers and headphones plugging into this. In your case, Gerald, MixVibes has a page here that tells you exactly how to do it.
And don’t forget, you have to plug the speakers and headphones into the correct sockets on your cable! If things aren’t behaving how you feel they should (eg the “cue” buttons are turning the main audio on or off, or the crossfader is affecting your headphones) try swapping the headphones and speakers over at the cable.
One final thing that sometimes confuses people about all of this is a question that goes something like: “But I’ve got four decks and a sampler, don’t I need five outputs, not two?” The reason the answer to this is “no” is that even if you had 99 decks (and Virtual DJ 7 can, folks!), the mixer section of your software mixes all of these inputs into just two – one for your headphones,a dn one for the speakers – so however complex your software audio is, you only ever need two outputs – and if you can’t afford, or simply don’t currently have, a pro DJ audio interface (or a controller with one built in), an audio splitter cable is a great way to get going, or a sensible backup to have too. I’ve had one kicking around in my gig bag for 10 years.
• Our recommended splitter cable is here; we also have an article and video that goes into this in a lot more detail here: All You Need To Know About DJ Splitter Cables
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I’ve been a long-time user of djay for iPad by Algoriddim (app store link: here ) and one of its best features is the capability for split audio output. This lets the user play the music on the deck faded to (selected) while listening to/cueing/checking the other deck. The importance of this is great, as it allows for dynamic song selection and cue point placement for an audience or recording.
Because of the limitations inherent in any audio device with only a single analog audio output, a bit of clever thinking let a user either buy an adapter, or create one from separate parts, to output in this manner. The effect is impressive, and having used an analog setup on many occasions, I’m sold. However, there’s a huge drawback: cue and output are split mono, not stereo.
While cueing in mono isn’t a big issue, mono main output for a close, discerning audience and for recording from the main output is a poor experience.
iOS6 included an important change to how the operating system could handle audio, allowing for digital and analog output. This capability meant that on an iPad, for example, a device could output discreet streams of audio to more than one destination.
In the case of the setup I have, the cue output is via the analog jack. The real fun starts, however, at the Dock Connector, which means that this method is specific for the 1-3rd generation iPad and iPhone 4/4s. Any newer devices with the Lightning connector will need to purchase the Lightning-to-USB adapter.
Apple’s Camera Connection Kit was one of the early accessories for iPad, allowing users to copy from SD or USB for photo and video import. Users soon found out, however, that the USB interface also allowed access for other devices such as keyboards, microphones, and USB sound cards. It’s this latter capability we’re going to exploit.
I found a seller on eBay, offering new, genuine Apple CCK units for under $10 with free shipping. This, combined with a very inexpensive USB sound card obtained from Amazon, gives us the stacking of interfaces we need.
Making sure djay was closed, I plugged in my headphones, connected the CCK USB adapter with USB sound card and earbuds attached, the started up the software. Entering into the Settings gear icon, I was now given options I’d not seen before, and another tap let me choose which of the outputs would be assigned to each role.
The effectiveness is clear, and even with a message popup that the accessory is not supported, the audio played, faded, and cued as it should, now in stereo.
There’s a slight risk that a USB sound card will not work, and mine, a Syba SD-CM-UAUD does have limitations such as mono input, but its C-Media chipset seems compatible with iOS. (Amazon Link)
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Finally, here’s a Vine video of it working:
Recently I’ve also become a big fan of Native Instruments’ Traktor DJ for iPad. Its use is very similar to djay, but it uses some interesting and more performance-oriented tweaks to do the job. The interface eschews the virtual decks for pure waveform manipulation, to great effect. It’s fantastic, a tool any real music fan should have, and it’s available from iTunes here. Split output with the CCK and USB audio works just as well, and with a few differences I’d argue it’s better. The cue feed, like on any two-channel mixer, is adjustable between cue and output, with an additional headphones icon, per track, to toggle. Very cool indeed.
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Finally, you may find, as I have, that the power output from the USB audio is much higher than the iPad. This can be a very good thing.